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-- >> careful. oh, yeah. >> i didn't see that. >> that was mitt romney and paul ryan earlier today on an airport tarmac in columbus, ohio. pointing at something, and ixnaying any talking about the debate day because of that icrophone nay. what mitt romney was alerting paul ryan to there, a suspicious looking boom mike hovering up above that was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were said last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the
, watching romney tell those untruths, i believe he had to do some of that because the only thing paul ryan was doing was complementing what romney was doing, which was lying. so i believe biden had to interrupt because there were times when things ryan was saying did not make any sense. the 47%, they cannot clarify the that this really has hurt a lot of people by what they have said and they cannot live up to that. then president obama gets in office the first day and the republicans say we will do everything we can to make sure you are one-term president. how can you get things done when on your first day they refuse to help him? it's not like he can come across the aisle. they have already dropped him. americans need to wake up and see that this is just a thing where the republicans will make sure they say or do whatever they can to make sure obama is not elected. he has done things for the republican side of america as well as the democratic side. host: we will leave it there and move on to michael in columbus, georgia, on our mitt romney line. caller: house is going -- how is it going?
know, political topic it is is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. >> sean: we are just 25 days from the election. "hannity" starts right here, right now. tonight, the former vice-president of the united states, dick cheney is giving us his exclusive reaction to the debate. first, a recap of the faceoff between crazy uncle joe biden and congressman paul ryan. without question, the headline was biden's downright bizarre, strange, bewildering behavior. for nearly 90 minutes he was either uncontrollably laughing or rudely interrupting his opponent. not even the benghazi terror attack or the nuclear weapons program were enough to prevent these bizarre outbursts. >> it is never too early to speak out for our values. they keep misquoting him. but let me tell you about the mitt romney i know. don't raise taxes on small businesses because they are our job creators. >> vice-president biden. >> incredible. >> look, you both saw benjamin netanyahu hold up that picture of a bomb with the red line i. thank heavens we have the sanctions in place. it is in spite of their opposition. they have given
it is crunch time for the congressman. mitt romney and the republicans are counting on ryan to continue the momentum and to at least parry anything vice president biden says. can he do it? that is the drama of the debate in kentucky this evening. since the campaign began, the obama team has not dealt with the media very much. even though the media loves the president. the last white house news conference, seven months ago! can you believe it? mr. obama does some soft news, like the late night shows and the view. but rarely sits for policy interviews. i've interviewed the president twice. but indications are he will dodge "the factor" this year. we hope he doesn't. he wants to reach independent voters, this is the place. obviously any interview he does with us will get world wide attention. vice president biden is even worse in the serious media. he's done few national tv interview views and rarely does he talk to local tv people. he's never been on "the factor," although i will talked to him on the phone. the question is why? why is the obama-biden team hiding? the answer is their recor
than obama. >> i agree with that. >> bill: because if ryan is able to beat visually like romney beat the president, then the momentum just cascades like that. if it's a stalemate, it doesn't mean anything. if biden wins, it gives the obama people a little bump. >> this illusion that there is some momentum going for -- that momentum for the last debate ended this last week. >> bill: the polls are still going. >> i do polls for a living. i look at it every day. today these guys bottomed out over the weekend. now we're back to a margin, if the election were held today, obama would win. he would win ohio. >> bill: i put it together in ohio might go for the president. but nevada, colorado, north carolina, virginia and florida all look like they're going for romney. >> you have to run that whole stage. you think he's going to do that? this is mitt romney. >> the suffolk people pulled out of north carolina, virginia and florida saying romney has got it. we're not going to poll again. >> who said they pulled out? >> bill: the head of the polling. >> i heard that guy. with all due respect, he
was out in denver campaigning for the romney ryan ticket and i slept about two hours. so i kind of woke up in the morning throughout the -- threw open shades and says it's time. >> murray how about you. was it fun to watch your uncle debating the vice president of the united states? >> it was amazing. we're really proud of him. it's incredible being able to see this guy i'm used to watching packer games with on sunday nights you know being, debating vice president joe biden. it was amazing. >> mack, how about you? what was the best part for you? >> uh, i just love seeing my uncle paul just debating and being himself. i just thought this is the same guy i just grown up seeing w he's just being himself. it was great to see him on tv out there. >> greta: do you think he'd be a good vice president mack? >> i think he's going to be a great one and put the country on the right track. >> how about you, maur murray. >> i have to agree with my brother on that one. >> greta: back to you, tobin. what did you think about back and forth? how do you think the vice president treated your brother? >> this
governor romney pays on his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan got personal. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from pennsylvania, i'm from wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america. >> reporter: for a vice presidential debate, the stakes were high tonight. after mitt romney's big win in denver and president obama's no-show performance there, biden needed to stop the bleeding. ryan was going for the jugular, seeking to build the momentum republicans are feeling. >> the next time you hear them say, don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out, middle class. the tax bill is coming to you. >> reporter: there was a stark generation gap on that stage tonight. joe biden, born in 1942, is older than the baby boomers. paul ryan, born in 1970, is younger than the baby boomers. and ryan looks it. today, "time" magazine published photos taken last year and on newsstands friday of ryan f
on paul ryan, of course to keep up the pace and perform as well as mitt romney did in his debate last week with president obama. the president himself even talked about it yesterday. gave an interview with diane sawyer. she asked him first of all what happened to you when you got on stage with old mittens? >> that debate what happened? >> obama: well governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. it's not the first time i had a bad night, but i think what is important is that the fundamentals of what this race is about haven't changed. governor romney went to a lot of trouble to try to hide what his positions are. >> bill: good way to sum it up. i had a bad night. he had a good night, but he just told a back of lies. and then he was asked what about the participates in tonight's debate. first of what do you expect from paul ryan? >> obama: congressman ryan is a smart and effective speaker, but it ideas are the wrong ones and joe understands that. >> bill: oh. oh. so he is saying don't lower your expectations. and what do you think joe biden has to do mr. president.
to the well think. >> bill: he nailed it. nailed it. it is romney and ryan who are on the side of the wealthiest people in america. and biden didn't hesitate again to call ryan out. he tried so many lies -- remember he said last night, his plan on medicare was bipartisan because ron widen the senator from washington was aco sponsor of it. and biden jointed out no you changed it and widen no longer supports it. here is joe biden calling ryan out -- i think this is on the defense cuts. >> we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that done when we equivocate on our values -- >> bill: get in there. >> they are much more willing to test us. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mularkey because everything he said was not true. >> bill: paul ryan came across as inexperienced and very very nervous. did you notice how many times he kept sipping water, like get me out of here. obviously a lot of his lines were rehearsed. he was not natural or uncomfortable at all. ryan said, mitt romney is a car guy. yeah, his father was the head of
. and coming to us tonight with a preview of romney versus ryan is kiki mcclain. welcome back inside "the war room." >> glad to be here governor. >> jennifer: all right. i am predicting we'll see a different strategy from joe biden in this debate, do you agree? >> yeah, i do, and i think it has to do with both personality and the role the vice president plays. the game is not to just beat up each other and see who coming outstanding, success will be the team that moves their candidate's message and that's joe biden's job. and feel free to drive that wedge between the truth and what mr. ryan has to say. >> jennifer: i think there are a lot of wedges or air that can be exposed between, for example, paul ryan and mitt romney. paul ryan's budget, huge opportunity, and of course the lies that paul ryan himself has uttered like in his convention speech. biden is not going to sit back and take that i assume. >> no, i don't think so. and i think people will be watching for daylight between paul ryan and mitt romney. paul ryan not wanting to drag his own career down with this guy
scores, ryan will really help romney. we have to realize how much of obama's appeal isenio v.ebwi 25 ora 25-year, i guess, difference in age, and one who is kind of a haard regular old-time bomb baftic politician, and the other, a very incisive, sharp cuolsohi ryave a tremendous edge. the other thing is that ryan wrote the romney program. this is not just a candidate for v.p., his the intellectual leader of the republican party day. t bpheat aolcaatke now, it's like mickey mantle coming to bat because he -- he wrote all ofhese programs. he knows these budgets. he knows these figures and biden i kysinodoguely aqadit emweant decisive. i think we are looking now at a whole new band of states coming into play, michigan, pennsylvania, new jersey. a bunch of state that nobody >>reta: all rht. near play. sa w bece a u et cesyao el if, instead, that it's a tie? essentially both gentlemen do about the same, no one dazzles anybody and everybody wal away, saying no one kill the other one >> that has to heomne he i t s. s ene wovg. yow,rem beginning to wonder, jus tonight, if the romney move in the
. >> romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children by an additional $2,000 a year. >> don't tell me what you value. show me your budget and i'll tell you what the value. >>> vice president biden will have some serious things to say this thursday. joining me is steve carnaci, co-host of "the cycle. he's writing in "salon" today about paul ryan's thing skin. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks for having me. is he ready for joe biden? >> it's an open question. one thing we found is he hasn't been ready forred kind of scrutiny that comes with a national spot light. there have been several interviews, in what we all assumed would be friendly turf fox news where at the slightest bit of scrutiny on follow-up questions he's gotten very testy and evasive. you can think of early on back in august in an interview, how long it would take mitt romney's budget to be balance. he said i don't want to be all wonky on you, but i don't know. and chris wallace started grilling him, a promise it will be deficit neutral and very va
of it and send the 47 million uninsured into the emergency room, letting them sit there. the ryan/romney team would allow people vouchers. i imagine telling an 80-year-old to get on a bus and find someone to sell them a health inpolicy. that's not all of it. mr. romney, when you're not supposed to be listening to him, that's when you should listen to him. his condensation on seniors and social security, that they should take spoon buiresponsibi their lives. if you have a pre-existing health condition and don't have health insurance and now can't get it, well, sir, that was your decision. that's romney talking. obama stuck his neck out and rescued it. mr. romney said, let it take bankruptcy. this is the big drastic differences between these candidates and these debates should debate them. >> howard fineman, a political analyst and editorial director of the huffington post. he's here and rounding out our panel in kentucky is the pulitzer prize columnist eugene robinson. thank you for being with us. i want to start with chuck. your reporting, does it tell you that it's going to be a broad debate
coverage starting at 2:45 eastern. mitt romney is teaming up with paul ryan for a rally in lancaster, ohio. c-span will have live coverage of that starting at 5:40 p.m. eastern. >> can we focus on the issues and not the personalities and the mud? there is a need, if we can take a poll here. there is a need to focus on the needs. >> how the gentlemen response? >> let's talk about these issues. let's talk about the programs that, in the presidency, a lot goes into it. caring goes into it. that is not specific. strength goes into it. that is not specific. this is what a president has to do. in principle, i will take your point and i think we ought to discuss child care or whatever else it is. >> and you, too? >> i will take the place because i know the american people want to talk about issues and not tabloid journalism. i will take the pledge and talk about the issues. for the record, i do not have any spin doctors or speechwriters. it probably shows. [laughter] i make those charts you see on television. if you don't have to wonder it is me talking. what you see is what you get. if you do no
romney the opposite. the last thing we need now is another war. >> congressman ryan. >> ryan: we mourn the loss of these four americans who were murdered. when you take a look at what has happened just in the last few weeks. they sent the un ambassador out to say this was just of a protest and youtube video. it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. he went to the un and he said six times he talked about the youtube video. look, if we are hit by terrorists, we are going to call it for what it is, a terrorist attack. our ambassador in paris has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi? they first blamed the youtube video, and now they are trying to blame the romney ryan ticket for making this ran issue. we agreed with hed with the obama administration with regard to iraq. the vice president was put in charge of those negotiations by president obama, and he failed to get the agreement. ween don't have [ inaudible ] agreement because they failed to get one. that'
was interrupting paul ryan, his opponent. he was going right at him where last week we had mott romney pushing around poor jim lehrer. it's disingenuous for the right to say let's not interrupt. judge, chris, does the president at this moment need to have a biden performance? i was asking brad woodhouse that a second ago. what is your thought here? >> it depends. town halls are different than one-on-one debates. it's a different dynamic. people need to be aware of that when they say the president needs to come out and be like a bulldog, be very aggressive. sounds really good. a nice talking point. when you've got 75 undecided voters you have to connect with, it's dangerous. i think the president's got to be himself. he's got to be very forceful in defense of his record and his presidency. and be clear where he wants to go. >> do you see them challenging each other on the floor during the town hall? >> it depends how the dynamic flows. my guess is both will be hesitant to do that. you're going to see them challenge them. it will be respectfully brutal. they are going to be tough 0 on each other
performance? did ryan help maintain the romney momentum? >> this is a classic case where both sides of the aisle people saw what they wanted to see. >> joining me now is brad woodhouse, communications director of the democrat national committee. thanks for joining us today. >> thanks, richard. >> the vice president is being hammered by people who say he was laughing inappropriately, very energetic certainly. smirking, interrupting frequently. let's play some of those moments for our viewers, first. >> under a romney administration, we will have credibility on this issue. >> vice president biden? >> it's incredible. >> thank heaven which have these sanctions in place. >> oh, god. >> it's been discredited by six other studies. over 100 criminal investigations. >> martha. >> go ahead. >> martha, look. >> here is some of what the republicans are saying about the vice president's performance last night. >> reminded me of al gore in 2000 walking over and standing by president bush sort of getting in his space. >> i don't know if he thought this was a joke but he was laughing a lot. >> it
person and an old person. i think on both scores, ryan will really help romney. we have to realize how much of obama's appeal is generational. when you you are putting on a v.p. debate with a 25 or 25-year, i guess, difference in age, and one who is kind of a haggard regular old-time bomb baftic politician, and the other, a very incisive, sharp, focused policy person, i think that you really are going to see ryan have a tremendous edge. the other thing is that ryan wrote the romney program. this is not just a candidate for v.p., his the intellectual leader of the republican party today. for him to be up there debating in a political debate is like, you know, it's like mickey mantle coming to bat because he -- he wrote all of these programs. he knows these budgets. he knows these figures and biden is only vaguely aqaipted with them. i think ryan is going to do extremely well and that will be decisive. i think we are looking now at a whole new band of states coming into play, michigan, pennsylvania, new jersey. a bunch of states that nobody would have thought near play. >> greta: all rig
any doubt on the part of viewers that the romney/ryan ticket will appoint justices -- two justice are likely to retire. they will appoint justices who will overturn roe v. wade. >> i was so pleased to hear him do that. we just did a special issue at "the nation" called the 1% court. the next president has the opportunity to appoint possibly four justices. four justices are over the age of 70. so i think it is a very critical appointment, and this is a court that could not only overturn roe v. wade but robert bourque was a -- it has also debt with citizens united and it's critical. >> jennifer: it is critical. after the first debate the gender gap which had been favoring president obama was now basically even. what does the president have to do in the next debate to get that back? >> he has to talk about women's issues across the spectrum. >> jennifer: i beam interested to see if citizens united comes up in the next one too. katrina vanden heuvel thank you for joining us inside "the war room." >> thank you. >> jennifer: and thank you for the battle in the natio
. thank you. >> romney and paul ryan are at this hour appearing at a rally in crucial battleground state of ohio. >> carl cameron is in lancaster. good evening. >> hi, bret. after the vice president debate, romney-ryan ticket is riding high with polls and pundits dubbing it a draw. >> did you get a chance to watch the debate last night? yeah. yeah. i think you might agree with me that there was one person on stage last night who was thoughtful, and respectful, steady, and poised. the kind of perp you want to turn to in a crisis. that was the next vice president of the united states paul ryan. [ applause ] >> i feel great. >> over breakfast, ryan said he was pleased by the performance and had been ready for biden's attacks. >> how do you feel? >> it's what i expected. >> biden was clearly the aggressor. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mu lar i can. >> vice president scoffed so much at ryan the rnc pumped out a web video immediately. snap polls showed a split decision. 48% of debate watchers said ryan won in cnn poll to 44% biden. >> we're saying these are from your act wares --
have brought up the nuns on the bus -- >> yeah, and show the rift between romney and ryan. but paul ryan said exactly what romney said. he does support abortion in cases of rape and incest. now paul ryan wants to repeal roe v. wade but still allow abortion cases of rape and incest. >> stephanie: exactly. >> and biden owned it when he said they were sending afghan troops and not american troops. laughing at your own lies is okay. laughing at the other guys' guys is rude. >> stephanie: yeah, and he just sort of disembowled this whole tax plan thing. he sounded like an eight year old, you can cut taxes by 20% -- >> sanit a cartoon once. >> stephanie: and biden is like not mathematically possible. >> and he's like you can -- biden is like it has never been done. >> no society has ever done what they are trying to do. the president is capable of this voice, but boy joe biden did a great job. >> stephanie: joe biden last night. >> when governor romney was asked about it he said we have to keep these sang -- sanctions. do you want to go to war? >> we want to prevent wa
be revenue neutral. you wouldn't add to the deficit. let's go through how you would do that. >> romney ryan campaign we're very excited about all the details of our new tax plan. it's thick with arithmetic, math, and the sorts of things we haven't had time to walk the american people through. so let's do that right now and just take a hard look at these numbers. [ screaming ] >> what i want to do is make it simpler, fairer. i want to encourage the economy to grow again. >> so you're repealing obama-care but keeping the good parts of healthcare, social security and medicare for seniors and you're going to build more submarines and destroyers than the pentagon wants, i want to ask you a question. are you a wizard. >> i'm not going to layout a piece of legislation here. >> we can't wait to walk you through all the details math point by math point. there are some tricky--sasquatch tricky--sasquatch. sasquatch, you come here! you come here, no, no, yeti. >> hi there, it's a trolley. it's on the way to the neighborhood of make believe. that's where me and paul ryan get most of our facts from. >>
as the romney/ryan ticket today opens up its biggest lead of in this entire election. the republicans leading by a full point now i in the real clear politics average of all polls, that's the first time that's happened since mitt romney secured the nomination. you can see the course of the last year with the blue line for president obama and the red line for mitt romney. and you can bet that this means new pressure for the vice president going into tonight. chris stirewalt is our fox news digital politics editor and host of "power play" on foxnews.com live. when i prepared for this event today, chris, the daytime show now and the prime time coverage later, the experts told me in the materials i read that the vice presidential debates never really move the election that much, the most it's moved is three points. and i said to myself, three points is a lot in an election like this one. >> three points is a lot when you have a one-point gap, megyn. first, let me say, you are in a beautiful place in america, you are in a wonderful spot, and it's going to be a great fisticuffs tonight, so i'm very
dead? >> it does not appear that either governor romney or representative ryan have any understanding of what it really takes to run a city in the united states of america, and quite frankly regardless of whether or not that mayor happens to be a democrat republican or independent. cities are the incubators of innovation. they are responsible for about 90% of the gross domestic product of the united states of america. and either of these guys have any idea what it takes to run a city, and in many instances have any idea what they are talking about. >> jennifer: i feel like in some ways cities end up being scapegoated or code language the urban poor the new welfare queens. do you have a sense of that? >> it's clear to me that mitt romney and paul ryan seek to actually create as much divisiveness in this election season as possible. constantly pitting one group against the other, playing people off on each other. that's what the whole 47% discussion that mitt romney was talking about. he was with obviously people he was comfortable with. he was ta
lawrence. >> coming up, mitt romney is now bi-curious. what does that mean for paul ryan in his debate? just how bi can paul ryan go? >>> and big bird's most passionate defender will join us later which will give me a chance to have a mini "west wing" reunion. and a member of the science commit me who thinks science is aloif from the pit of hell. and he thinks he's a scientist. also tonight steve mor continue -- martin decided to do his political commercial, one of those guys, steve martin or bob kerrey will join me to explain why steve did that. ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >>> coming up, mitt romney tried to play a moderate at the debate last week. this week, paul rien's going to give it a shot. he's never played that part before. ryan versus biden is next. former nebraska senator bob kerrey will talk about his race to get back into the senate and how he talked steve martin in to helping him. a republican congress man says the bible teaches us al
of that. >> okay. there he is, romney chose a vp, by the way, paul ryan, who co-sponsored a, quote, personhood bill. with congressman todd akin aboard. that personhood bill basically guarantees if not the criminalization of abortion, something close to it. the republican platform is out of date. it calls for a human life amendment to the constitution to, quote, make clear the 14th amendment's protections apply to unborn children. unborn children at the age of a couple seconds have the right to property. romney has a right to support a supreme court justice, here's what he wants. >> hope to appoint justices to the supreme court that will follow the law and the constitution and it would be my preference that they reverse roe v. wade, therefore they return to the people and their elected representatives the decisions with regards to this important issue. >> cecile richards, as an expert and advocate, what do we make of this complete divide between what romney is saying these days about health care, about preexisting conditions, about abortion rights, something you care very much about
on romney/ryan. let's hope they get the message starting now. >>> also, what really happened in that fatal attack in benghazi? republicans are charged with the state department with lack security. republicans say democrats are trying to score points off a tragedy. a ceo says if a certain candidate wins presidency, he may have to fire people. see if you can guess which billionaire this candidate opposes? this is "hardball," the place for politics. you. we know you. we know you have to rise early... and work late, with not enough sleep in between. how you sometimes need to get over to that exit, like, right now. and how things aren't... just about you anymore. introducing the all-new, smart-sensing... honda accord. it starts with you. >>> now you see it and now you don't. late today president obama weighed in. on an interview on abc, romney's latest position on abortion is an attempt to mask the position he's been running on. let's listen. >> other example of governor romney hiding positions he's been campaigning on for a year and a half. governor romney has made it very clear that if a bill
romney again. >> eliot: i hope as we see him take apart the numbers of the paul ryan numbers and say it doesn't add up and be relentless and demanding and answers to paul ryan because we can fill 12 hours of debate and playing rope a dope and giveing answers. and it could make it clear that it's a bunch of swiss cheese flimflam and meaningless because it won't add up. i don't know if he'll be given the time and have the leeway to do that tomorrow night. i'm bringing a big bag of popcorn it will be fun to watch. >> it's not a copies dense that democrats have congressman chris van holen to be vice president biden sparing rep. they're definitely going hard on this ryan budget. >> we've lost count of how many etch-a-sketches there has been but this shift on abortion. this is something that had he done in the middle of the primary season might have disqualified him from the republican race. is this intentional, or was this just something that he let loose with in iowa or very recently. >> i would say this is a strategic decision by the romney campaign to emphasize or retate some of his po
to romney. >> ryan is going to be brilliant. >> bill: whatever they do, it's a matter of i think both candidates will be very, very cautious. the reason i say that ryan lost it today was because you have to assume if you're ryan or romney that the press wants to hurt you, no matter who it is. when they do something as this reporter did, that was pretty stupid, you just laugh about it. come on. you roll your eyes. you don't react in a serious way because then that will be used against you. all right. >> remember, beating up on the left wing press works to the republican candidate's advantage every time. >> bill: if i had done that, if he said listen, you pinhead, that was an unfair question. but it looked like he wanted to get away from him so it didn't look good. later, john stossel on why some companies are hurting their workers over obamacare. interesting report. plus, selling your stuff. very quietly the supreme court may stop us from that! is it legal? moments away look at those toys. insurance must be expensive. nah. [ dennis' voice ] i bet he's got an astate agent. they can save
the curtain. >> romney, ryan, 2012. yay! >> well, democrats woke up this morning with their hair on fire think what the hell is going on? why? because they saw polls like this. now, romney with the lead, 49-47 of likely voters in a glial lineup poll. things have swung dramatically. last night i told you colorado and ohio are still comfortably in president obama's camp and if they are nothing to worry about. new poll out, american research group, colorado, romney up by four. oops! >> ohio, as how goes the country goes? oh no! 48-47 romney in the lead in ohio at least according to american research group. all right, well, now conservatives have gotten so confident and cocky they're calling the election. >> the reason i think it's over of course, i thought it was over last week and the week before. romney's going to win. part of the evidence is this was the most watched debate since 1980 when reagan ran against carter and there was only one debate that year. what happened that year? that was the first time in the last 100 years republicans took out an incumbent. >> they're calling it. let's see h
. >> in the next debate and the vice presidential debate, when mitt romney or paul ryan is saying something that is not true. they need to call it out. that is not true. you do have a $5 trillion tax cut in your plans. you're not going to cover people's pre-existing conditions in your healthcare plan. you need to say it then and not rely on fax checkers the next day. >> eliot: you can't wait for the story the next day. ryan zerlina is right. you cannot depend upon that. how does the president need to do that,e vince this power and passion and sense of purpose that so clearly was missing. >> i think people want to see that he wants the job. that he wants to fight for them. if you look at it this way if somebody is looking at somebody who won't even stand up for themselves, then what are the chances they're thinking that this person is going to stand up for me? when you're watching obama in this debate you can finally see why it is that he was getting rolled day in and day out by the republicans on capitol hill. you can say hey man that is a guy i would like to be negotiating with. >> eliot:
ryan get together for their one and only debate serving as proxies for the president and mitt romney. how did ryan do? we'll knock that around with our "morning joe" crew. when we come back here, we huddle around the water cooler to watch a near brawl in a debate in california. head locks and fingers in faces when way too early comes back. a great clean doesn't have to take longer. i'm done. i'm gonna read one of these. i'm gonna read one of these! [ female announcer ] unlike sprays and dust rags, swiffer 360 duster's extender gets into hard-to-reach places without the hassle. so you can get unbelievable dust pickup in less time without missing a thing. i love that book. can you believe the twin did it? ♪ swiffer. great clean in less time. or your money back. >>> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scanton, pennsylvania, i'm from wisconsin. you know the unemployment rate in scranton? >> sure do. >> it's 10%. the day you came in it was 8.5%. >> that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> joe biden and paul ryan met in danville, kentucky for the first and only vice preside
governor romney and congressman ryan, it's congressman ryan who has specifics. he has an actual budget that vice president biden and reporters, quite frankly, can point to to say, in your budget, house budget committee chairman, you propose this, you propose that. where are you now? and the bind that congressman ryan is in, he's not the top of the ticket. governor romney is and governor romney said famously after they were chosen, paul ryan has his plan but i'm the candidate. i have my own plan. paul ryan is going to have to figure out how he can talk about what he believes and not run afoul of wherever governor romney might be on any of these budgetary issues, and especially medicare. >> it could be very interesting and very important given where we are at this stage, 29 days out. jonathan and margie omera, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> a new group intimidating voters at the poll. into plus, the folks at snl brought humor but there's a serious point to be made. that's ahead. [ female announcer ] you can measure the growth of children by the way they clean themselv
you this, when paul ryan is elected as vice president and i'm elected president -- >> now, mr. romney made those claims under a banner that says protect and strengthen medicare. did he forget that he signed on to the plan that would kill medicare as we know it? you know the one his running mate created. so this is the great mitt migration to the middle, the move from severely conservative to just severely brazen. the question is, can this new mitt move past the smell test? joining me now is congresswoman january kakowski and michelle cottle, correspondent for "the daily beast ". thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> congresswoman, let me go to you first. newt gingrich admits governor romney has changed. how will he answer this in the next 29 days? >> well, we have to double down and demand the truth and who do you trust becomes the real question now but you can't going from saying we shouldn't hire more teachers to saying, i love teachers. we need more. you can't say you're against the dodd/frank bill and then say, oh, yes, wall street needs regulation. and you can't
. >> paul ryan just days before the debate last week directly contradicted romney. ryan said lowering the tax rates was more important than anything else, including getting rid of those deductions to pay for them supposedly. let's watch. >> what's most important to romney, what would he scale back on the 20% tax cut for the wealthy? would he scale back and say, okay, we're going to have to raise taxes for the middle class? i guess the question is what's most important to him in his tax reform plan -- >> keeping tax rates down. by lowering tax rates, people keep more of the next dollar they earn. >> that's more important -- >> that's more important than anything. >> in other words, it is, in fact, a tax cut. it's not a tax caught offset by deductions. it's to get the tax rates down from 35% to 38%. that's the goal he said. >> romney said something interesting in the debate where he basically said nobody can say that my tax cut is going to add to the deficit if i say it won't. well, in fact, everybody who has looked at the plan says it will add to the deficit. there isn't a single credi
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